Baton Armor TM Question #3

Do you think this was fairer? Why/Why not?

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• Player: Sure
• Player: what do you mean.
• Player: i think stun batons aren't fair at all provided it's 1 hit from losing as antag unless you got high damage weapons
• Player: No, it didn't change a thing.
• Player: I could try guessing which head of staff got ransacked for their gear. Amusing.
• Player: Yes, but it can be better
• Player: what was fairer?
• Player: No, this was not, go on and delete lasers than, imagine being antag and while you try to click on seccie 3 times with baton, he shoots you to death with lasers that deal 25dmg.
• Player: I dont know.I cant see the change.
• Player: it's fairer, the 2 hit winstick is horrible for interesting fights and armor giving benefits against stun weapons makes sense
• Player: Fairer for the Antagonists and less fair for the Secoffs
• Player: meow
• Player: No I dont think it was fairer. Heads of staff that got a worse baton really got screwed. If Security could print their own power cells it would not be as big of an issue for them. I think Antags should be encouraged to get more creative and use their knowledge and skills rather than baby moding the game for them by nerfing batons
• Player: no noob overall changfe
• Player: N/A didn't notice.
• Player: N/A didn't notice.
• Player: No. Heretics, traitors, and the like already had much more than enough ways out of stuns, which were not changed in any noticeable way or removed at all, making batons all but useless. All this PR did was make it easier for sec to justify breaking out lethals to kill an antagonist and then keep them dead. It also didn't change the mansus grasp or contractor baton at all, making it even more one-sided than it already was. TL;DR- with this PR, more people will be RR'd, both on antagonists sides (no change to antag stuns, harder to fight back with your own stuns) and crew sides (break out lethals for every problem or you're SOL) in their own way, making it a lot less fun for the people i've seen talk about it.
• Player: maybe
• Player: Honestly? Yeah, I like energy armor coming into play more. It also made syndie mods more of a danger because you couldn't just get your easy baton win with them